Child of Light

I downloaded this yesterday. Went out and bought a PSN card for Persona 2 and Persona 3, and decided to get this at the same time. I didn't hear anything about it until release, and then was kind of surprised that it was being called an RPG. Looking at a few screenshots, it looked like a cool little side scroller so I went for it. I am barely into it, but I like it so far. I like how they made most of the lines rhyming like a fairy tale. Pretty unique!

Then I got to my first battle, I almost crapped my pants. I did not expect a turn based system! I figured I would be hacking and slashing like an action RPG. My enjoyment just went up tenfold. I was just going to play it as a distraction, but I think I've decided to play it all the way through before picking up another RPG.

Anyone else try it out?

From what I've read, it's a very short RPG approx. 12-15 hrs of play time.

I got that too. I am already in Chapter 4 after 2-3 hrs of gameplay, and there are 10 chapters.

This doesn't bother me though. Not every game has to be a 60 hour epic. I liked The Last Story for the same reason. The Last Story is probably longer than Child of Light, but it had a great story, good characters, and interesting gameplay.

As far as price goes. I have a completely absurd formula that I created for myself, which is that if I spend 1 dollar for each hour of gameplay, I feel as though I got a good deal. So $15 for a 15 hour game is right around where I want it to be.

Plus, the battle system is Grandia III-ish which I really enjoy, that was one of my favorite battle systems ever...

I personally don't mind the game being 12 - 15 hrs, I often fear that my huge backlog will never be completed, not even in the log term. I don't recall the last game I cleared and for some reason I keep replaying games I already cleared before X_X. Sometimes something more "manageable" is appreciated, and given how non RPGs tend to be only a few hours long at double the price I think it's reasonable.

I just don't want my game bloated, a long game doesn't always mean a good game.

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Originally Posted by daylightdies

I just don't want my game bloated, a long game doesn't always mean a good game.

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So true, some games just add filler or extensive grinding just to qualify as an 60hr epic. I don't mind length as long as it's justified, even a little.

^yeah but the counter argument is that its usually optional, most rpgs especially early FF games you could blow through them in under 15 hours, but had optional mission that expanded it to 50-100. IMO if its optional than I don't really either way.

I used to like the longer rpgs. Now I prefer shorter games since I don't sit down to play for hours on end like I used to.

^That is one of the reasons I never played Star Ocean two and its 85 endings.

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Originally Posted by krownklown

^that is one of the reasons i never played star ocean two and its 85 endings.

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85? ... Eighty five?!!! O_O

whoops its actually 87

Has anyone ever gotten all 87? O_O and here I thought Fate/Stay Night's flowchart was complex.

Bought it early to mid April, downloaded April 29, started playing last night. Seems some people are complaining that the game is too short, simple, and easy to pick up and put down. Given the length of time it took me to start playing - those complaints seem to be benefits for me.

That said, there is also some talk about bugs corrupting save data and being nagged to sign up for Uplay is annoying.

Hey, what a kewl title for a videogame. I would pick up a videogame like that in a heartbeat because I find interest in just caking on a slapstick kind of a title. I noticed you had mentioned, Revelations Series: Persona 2 and Persona 3, and those videogames mended and meant a lot to our littlest clic because we always just had it around the, ''House,'' or what-ever we had[slash]called a household but I was the only one to pick it up and take a interest, really, in'nit. It made me wonder if this's in the season as a whole commodity pack, or not - if it's a whole 'nother videogame - my bad - Preppy stuff, Revelations: Series, that's why I personally like it, a lot a lot. It takes me out of the power structure, bogs I'm in sometimes just from shire environment.

:D Vita port announced! I'm so getting it XP

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Originally Posted by Aristides

:D Vita port announced! I'm so getting it XP

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Is it physical? Probably not.

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Originally Posted by DeadElf_

Bought it early to mid April, downloaded April 29, started playing last night. Seems some people are complaining that the game is too short, simple, and easy to pick up and put down. Given the length of time it took me to start playing - those complaints seem to be benefits for me.

That said, there is also some talk about bugs corrupting save data and being nagged to sign up for Uplay is annoying.

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Personally, I like short and easy to put down. It fits well with me, I actually prefer longer portable games and shorter console games.

I haven't found it particularly hard yet, but not completely easy either. About average. And I love the combat system. The uplay thing is slightly annoying, but it is just a prompt before you load, and thats it. Not really a big deal, people who are complaining about that are just finding things to complain about.

What part of NY are you in?

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Originally Posted by KrownKlown

Is it physical? Probably not.

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There are no physical copies of Child of Light.

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Originally Posted by storino03

There are no physical copies of Child of Light.

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Sadly, and this would have made a great physical Vita game too...

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Originally Posted by Aristides

Sadly, and this would have made a great physical Vita game too...

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Yeah, it would have a very nice LE package I'm sure. That said, the game is a budget title... so that makes physical a bit harder.. I paid 15 for it, I'm not sure if I'd want to pay more...

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Originally Posted by Aristides

Has anyone ever gotten all 87? O_O and here I thought Fate/Stay Night's flowchart was complex.

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As I recall, SO2 was not a case of 87 actual different endings. Instead, it was one of those things where you could unlock a character vignette that would play during the ending if you developed your relationship with the character well enough. There were little bits for who you were romantically interested in, if anyone (applied to both genders, but in the case of same gender, it was a "deep friendship" rather than romance) and it varied based upon whether you played as Claude or Rena. Also, you could not get everyone on any one playthrough; there were mutually exclusive characters (you had to pick which of the two you took, and often had no idea that you were making such a choice) and there were even two that were MC dependent in that playing Claude got you one, and you could only get the other by playing as Rena.

So .. yea .. calling it 87 is a bit of a stretch. Different endings is what Crono Trigger did (the ending changed depending upon just when you beat it). This? Just little vignettes that got added to the ending without really changing it (the only real changes per se were based on who the MC romanced/bonded with). I never beat the game after removing the Power Limiter though, so I do not know if the ending changed with that.

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Originally Posted by KrownKlown

Is it physical? Probably not.

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I saw something about a physical copy in Europe, just like the main release, and that's about it.

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Originally Posted by DeadElf_

I saw something about a physical copy in Europe, just like the main release, and that's about it.

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Yeah I do not think we know for certain but it will probably have a code for a digital copy in it like the US one did.

It'snit rare for UbiSoft to be making videogames, let alone a role-playing videogame at that? I'd be willing to look into this.

Regarding Star Ocean the Second Story, I always consider it as kind of halfsie's in that Claude's was one part, Rena's is the other half, or whichever, depending on who you chose. Did I ever consider the videogame to be finished till I got through both halves. There was one time before where I actually got a completed save file; I got all the characters - it was shared. I think that's right. Dias is kind of a stickler, or stuck-up, while Leon and Noel were like the same person 'cause their names are a palindrome. LOL So, I gave myself lead way in that aspect.

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As I recall, SO2 was not a case of 87 actual different endings. Instead, it was one of those things where you could unlock a character vignette that would play during the ending if you developed your relationship with the character well enough. There were little bits for who you were romantically interested in, if anyone (applied to both genders, but in the case of same gender, it was a "deep friendship" rather than romance) and it varied based upon whether you played as Claude or Rena. Also, you could not get everyone on any one playthrough; there were mutually exclusive characters (you had to pick which of the two you took, and often had no idea that you were making such a choice) and there were even two that were MC dependent in that playing Claude got you one, and you could only get the other by playing as Rena.

So .. yea .. calling it 87 is a bit of a stretch. Different endings is what Crono Trigger did (the ending changed depending upon just when you beat it). This? Just little vignettes that got added to the ending without really changing it (the only real changes per se were based on who the MC romanced/bonded with). I never beat the game after removing the Power Limiter though, so I do not know if the ending changed with that.

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Chrono Trigger essentially only has one ending since there is a sequel. Chrono Trigger has one ending that ends with every character dead, except some weird clone of the blond who becomes Kid in Cross.

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Originally Posted by KrownKlown

Chrono Trigger essentially only has one ending since there is a sequel. Chrono Trigger has one ending that ends with every character dead, except some weird clone of the blond who becomes Kid in Cross.

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Chrono Trigger is unique with the multiple ending, but the true canon ending has always been the "best" one as well. The whole FMV with the baby Lucca finds was added for the rerelease to make it flow into Chrono Cross.
And actually,

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I believe Kid is just a reincarnation of Schala.

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Originally Posted by KrownKlown

Chrono Trigger essentially only has one ending since there is a sequel. Chrono Trigger has one ending that ends with every character dead, except some weird clone of the blond who becomes Kid in Cross.

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Nothing in Chrono Cross is canon in the Chrono Trigger universe, as far as I'm concerned. That crappy game should never have existed.

However...

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Not "the blonde", Marle. But rather Schala, the blue-haired princess from Zeal who bonds with Lavos.

Still, it's important to note that some elements of the plot were rewritten for later versions of Chrono Trigger (DS) to try to make very vague connections between the games "more canon", in favor of Chrono Cross. This is ONLY in ending 13 and was not part of the original game.

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Originally Posted by xelement5x

Chrono Trigger is unique with the multiple ending, but the true canon ending has always been the "best" one as well. The whole FMV with the baby Lucca finds was added for the rerelease to make it flow into Chrono Cross.
And actually,

Spoiler: 

I believe Kid is just a reincarnation of Schala.

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More like a clone than a reincarnation.

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Spoilers FTW!

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Originally Posted by Aristides

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Spoilers FTW!

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Lol, I was waiting for this one.

You do realize that Chrono Cross is actually rated higher than Trigger, so leave your senile rose colored memories at the door. Trigger to me was one of the biggest let downs ever, not because it was a bad game, but because its so ungodly hyped and then its eh, good, but not great when you play. Cross on the other hand I loved from start to finish, although the vague ending was a little annoying. FF 3/6 blows CT out of the water imo as far snes rpgs go.

And also if a sequel makes the multiple endings moot, they might not as well exist, and if anything its just the first game wasting your time.

I never finished Earthbound but I suspect its basically chrono trigger 2, a game that good but not great, that for whatever reason people fawn over.

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Originally Posted by KrownKlown

You do realize that Chrono Cross is actually rated higher than Trigger, so leave your senile rose colored memories at the door. Trigger to me was one of the biggest let downs ever, not because it was a bad game, but because its so ungodly hyped and then its eh, good, but not great when you play. Cross on the other hand I loved from start to finish, although the vague ending was a little annoying. FF 3/6 blows CT out of the water imo as far snes rpgs go.

And also if a sequel makes the multiple endings moot, they might not as well exist, and if anything its just the first game wasting your time.

I never finished Earthbound but I suspect its basically chrono trigger 2, a game that good but not great, that for whatever reason people fawn over.

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I'm neither senile, nor are they rose colored memories. Don't be a prick by throwing out passive aggressive insults as you tend to do when people don't agree with your opinion. It is factual that SE retconned Chrono Trigger in later versions to wedge in Cross' sloppy plot. Maybe you only played the DS version, so you didn't realize it?

Furthermore, I don't know that someone is senile if they play and like a game that is available on numerous modern consoles and tablets. The game has been enjoyed by numerous generations, and there is a reason why it has fans.

Coincidentally, Google is spying on my browsing history and sent me a link via Google Now.

http://venturebeat.com/2012/01/25/ch...-storytelling/

I honestly tend to agree with the author in most respects, and I am not the only one.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/ran...=1&min_votes=5

(Hint. Chrono Trigger is #2. Chrono Cross is on page 3 at #143).

So I don't know what alternate reality you live in where Cross is more highly rated than Trigger. GamesFAQs' 4.64 (SNES) to 4.24 says you are wrong, unless you are talking about some crappy port by TOSE. Even the DS version ranks higher than Cross. Maybe you are talking about a handful of Metacritic reviews, which you cannot compare because there are none for the SNES game.

And as far as SNES RPGs go, who cares if FF VI is better? I also agree. VI is one of my favorite games. But I still like both better than Chrono Cross. While you were disappointed with Trigger, I don't like Cross. I felt that the game was an incoherent mess that was filled to the brim with boring characters and bad writing. I was looking forward to it for years and felt that it was a letdown. Basically it ushered in an era of crap from Squaresoft after it had been known for quality games. Not much has changed, looking at the recent Drakengard 3 reception; Not that low scores would stop me from playing or enjoying it.

Chrono Cross was amazing. Chrono Trigger was also good. But in terms of aural and visual experiences, I'd have to go with Chrono Cross. It came out at a time where the PS1 era was at the forefront of my childhood gaming days.

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Originally Posted by storino03

Chrono Cross was amazing. Chrono Trigger was also good. But in terms of aural and visual experiences, I'd have to go with Chrono Cross. It came out at a time where the PS1 era was at the forefront of my childhood gaming days.

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That's cool. Everyone has a different opinion. The game did look and sound amazing.

I see Chrono Cross like Final Fantasy VII though. Lots of people played them during their "childhood gaming days". From KrownKlown's past posts, it sounds like he is not far off.

Chrono Cross has aged much better than a lot of PS1 RPGs, other issues aside.

The SNES doesn't represent my childhood, so I don't see it or the PS1 as being in the forefront for me. I tend to like everything up to the current era fairly equally. Truth be told, I have fewer SNES games than just about any other console. And that's weird because it has some great games... Or else I just have a lot of games on other consoles.

i to like Chrono Cross more than Trigger.

Trigger is just...........decent to me.

I think it all comes down to some people don't take opinions well.

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Originally Posted by storino03

Chrono Cross was amazing. Chrono Trigger was also. good. But in terms of aural and visual experiences, I'd have to go with Chrono Cross. It came out at a time where the PS1 era was at the forefront of my childhood gaming days.

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Serious question, since you appear to be discussing in a rational manner: how many times have you played through Chrono Cross? While I enjoyed my initial playthrough of the game, I've never been able to do a full replay of the game. The game pacing always feels too slow to me on new game+ and even the fast forward option doesn't seem to help. One of the great things from Trigger, for me, is that the game seems to be very speed run friendly. Cross on the other hand, while I would like to dig more through the story of what's going on, seems to want to make me wait for everything around the story as well. I wonder how Cross would play out if it had been released on anything but the PS1 (or equivalent from that gen.)

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Originally Posted by zborgerd

Nothing in Chrono Cross is canon in the Chrono. Trigger universe, as far as I'm concerned. That crappy game should never have existed.

However...

Spoiler: 

Not "the blonde", Marle. But rather Schala, the blue-haired princess from Zeal who bonds with Lavos.

Still, it's important to note that some elements of the plot were rewritten for later versions of Chrono Trigger (DS) to try to make very vague connections between the games "more canon", in favor of Chrono Cross. This is ONLY in ending 13 and was not part of the original game.

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I can't help but think that a discussion about what is and is not canon in a universe for a series that delves into time travel, changing history, and parallel realities is kind of funny.

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Originally Posted by DeadElf_

I can't help but think that a discussion about what is and is not canon in a universe for a series that delves into time travel, changing history, and parallel realities is kind of funny.

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Actually, I kinda did too... In hindsight. :)

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Originally Posted by DeadElf_

Serious question, since you appear to be discussing in a rational manner: how many times have you played through Chrono Cross? While I enjoyed my initial playthrough of the game, I've never been able to do a full replay of the game. The game pacing always feels too slow to me on new game+ and even the fast forward option doesn't seem to help. One of the great things from Trigger, for me, is that the game seems to be very speed run friendly. Cross on the other hand, while I would like to dig more through the story of what's going on, seems to want to make me wait for everything around the story as well. I wonder how Cross would play out if it had been released on anything but the PS1 (or equivalent from that gen.)

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Over the years, 2-3 times. Can't remember exactly.