Class of Heroes 2 - Who's in Your Party?

I'm still trying to get a good party together. I re-rolled my characters until getting at least 30-40 bonus points and I'm trying to keep affinity in-check with semi-compatible races. It's a bit tough to keep the alignment similar if you want a few of the advanced classes.

Here's what I am using at the moment:

Human / Warrior / Good: Hoping to advance to another fighting class later, such as a berserker.
Felpur / Samurai / Good: Seemed to be a good fit for a samurai.
Human / Ninja / Evil: It's a ninja. Gotta have one of those.
Khulaz / Puppeteer / Neutral: Maybe I can upgrade to a geomancer?
Fairy / Sorcerer / Neutral: Probably try to upgrade to a sage.
Celestian / Sorcer / Evil: Hoping to upgrade to a fallen angel.

What is everyone else using, and why?

I decided to stack 3 sorcerers because melee classes are too frustrating without good equipment. So I ended up with:

1. Edith: human monk, neutral
2. Liesel: bahamun warrior, good
3. Ping: gnome ranger, neutral
4. Sasha: diablo sorc, neutral
5. Arifa: fairy sorc, good
6. Hannah: celestian sorc, good

Since I don't have a PSP yet (and I am awful at party balancing anyway lols), a lot of my class putting together-ness is kind of a mix between guessing what I think would work and the looks of the characters lol I am also trying to not have 2 characters of the same class because variety or something :V (and not have the compatibility too bad...)

Yeah some of these are adv. classes, but since I don't really know how difficult it is to get those, I'm just ignoring that for now... (I just assume that it's not too difficult to change classes later?)
But anyways, here's my plan so far (all are either neutral or good... not sure how to decide which is what?):

gnome/idol -because hair colour is awesome...?
fairy/ranger - there seems to be a lot of traps and I assume that's what rangers are good for...
celestian/sorcerer - I like the celestians <3 (and I guessed they were good at magic)
khulaz/puppeteer - I'm not really sure if puppeteers are any good? (mostly picked because khulazs are adorable)
dwarf/samurai - needed some melee type?
elf/fighter - same as above

So yeah I wouldn't be surprised if this combination was horrible since it's mostly based on guesses and assumptions YAY :D

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Originally Posted by LuciedBR

I decided to stack 3 sorcerers because melee classes are too frustrating without good equipment. So I ended up with:

1. Edith: human monk, neutral
2. Liesel: bahamun warrior, good
3. Ping: gnome ranger, neutral
4. Sasha: diablo sorc, neutral
5. Arifa: fairy sorc, good
6. Hannah: celestian sorc, good

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I'm with you on the magic user thing. I've found that, especially early on, the spells are necessary but there just isn't enough MP for one mage to handle the burden. More often than not though, my spellcasters are having to defend to save magic. I'm slowly finding more weapons and this seems to help my fighters in the front to do some serious damage, but there are times where the fireball spell is absolutely essential.

Celestians are good at divine magic but not arcane magic, because of their stats. Gnome is the race that's good at both, except they can choose magic majors in this game.

Diablos probably have the best stats for magic in general.

Let's see, my team so far...

Verk- Bahamun Monk
Lina- Felpur Warrior (kinda based 'er off of Katt from BoF2)
Ikaros- Celestian Samurai
Mac- Human Ranger
Pixie- Fairy Novice (Don't blame me for the name! I'm also a Monster Rancher fan)
Rika- Elf Sorcerer (PS IV)

Yeah, magic is a life saver here... fortunately, I've been able to run from most battles when MP gets low for Rika. So far.

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Originally Posted by LuciedBR

Celestians are good at divine magic but not arcane magic, because of their stats. Gnome is the race that's good at both, except they can choose magic majors in this game.

Diablos probably have the best stats for magic in general.

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Can a Celestian not be a fallen angel? It doesn't explicitly say, but I'd guess that it would. Only certain races seem to be able to do certain classes, it would seem.

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Originally Posted by LuciedBR

I decided to stack 3 sorcerers because melee classes are too frustrating without good equipment. So I ended up with:

1. Edith: human monk, neutral
2. Liesel: bahamun warrior, good
3. Ping: gnome ranger, neutral
4. Sasha: diablo sorc, neutral
5. Arifa: fairy sorc, good
6. Hannah: celestian sorc, good

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It took about an hour or two, but my melee characters were able to find decent weapons with a bit of searching and alchemy. But, yeah, you'll be doing a lot of 1 HP attacks until you find new weapons. Then they will be regularly 30 HP of damage after a bit of searching and grinding.

My current party is:

Bahamun Warrior (Will be Dragon Knight eventually)
Celestian Fallen Angel
Gnome Alchemist
Human Gunner (was Ninja for 6 levels to learn Unlock for when he's drunk)
Fairy Sorcerer (Will switch to Sage after hitting level 22)
Elf Sorcerer (Will switch to Summoner after hitting level 22)

Melee is working wonders for me so far I suppose it's because my crew uses it plenty lol

Terra - Human/F/Warrior/Neutral
Raster -Bahamun/M/Monk/Evil
Mika - Khulaz/F/Ranger/Neutral
Mantra - Diablos/F/Puppeteer/Neutral
Nyami - Felpur/F/Idol/Good
Lyana - Fairy/F/Sorcerer/Neutral

My team has yet to fail me yet, excellent affinity, and they complement each other superbly. Still not sure what classes to upgrade them to.

Tanis - Bahamun/Female/Warrior
Olivia - Dwarf/Female/Samurai
Gene - Felpur/Male/Monk

Julian - Human/Male/Ranger
Dio - Elf/Male/Sorcerer
Lyra - Diablos/Female/Sorcerer

Pretty good team so far. Monk and warrior hit like monsters and my sorcerers make sure whatever it is I'm fighting goes down.

Bahamun, Warrior, Good
Dwarf, Monk, Neutral
Felpur, Samurai, Good
Diablos, Ninja, Evil
Khulaz, Ranger, Neutral
Fairy, Sorcerer, Evil

Not sold on the value of the ranger yet, will probably swap out.


Alts:
Celestian, Sorcerer, Good
Elf, Idol, Neutral
Khulaz, Puppeteer, Neutral
Gnome, Novice, Neutral

Bahamun Dragon Knight - Started off as a Monk. Good damage and awesome HP, but too few MP to be a useful healer.
Dwarf Berzerker - Started off as a Warrior. Dual axes/hammers do rad damage, but have annoyingly low hit rate.
Human Idol - Fairly weak for the front line, but mics are short range. I don't want to switch her to a different class either. Now has a Gorgon Knife as support weapon.
Khulaz Puppeteer - Switched to Geomancer for a while, but bells are short range and the front line is full already. Now uses a Power Sling because of better damage.
Elf Summoner - Started off as a Sorcerer, switched when she learned all the spells. Very happy with the Seraphim summon atm. Uses a Power Sling too.
Gnome Ranger - So weaksauce that I have to keep her at the very back, even though she does quite high damage.

I've considered changing some of them, but leveling up and equipping a new character would be such a hassle.

My party is:
Raith / Bahamun / Male / Warrior
Keegan / Human / Male / Monk
Idan / Diablos / Male / Ninja
Brea / Bahamun / Female / Idol
Nicar / Fairy/ Male / Ranger
Jilen / Elf / Male / Sorcerer

It's not so bad but some people get a string of bad luck and get one shotted very often. Oddly it's not the fairy ranger but the monk. I'm seriously considering dropping Nicar because both Idan and Jilen have trapped chest spells and can unlock the darn things. I really want a Gnome Alchemist.

I'll probaby need to change out someone for another sorcerer so I can have a healer, but so far:

Leon - M/Bahamun/Good/Warrior - I want to make him a Dragon Warrior
Carmen - F/Dwarf/Neutral/Monk
Ashe - F/Felphur/Good/Samurai
Lyn - F/Human/Good/Idol - I always try to have a troubadour type character in my DRPGs :)
Mia - F/Diablos/Evil/Sorcerer
Aisha - F/Khulaz/Neutral/Ranger

I don't know who to replace for a healer. I don't want my lone sorcerer to do double duty and I really want to keep my idol.

@lolipez - Your Dragon Knight will learn healing spells (but won't have the MP your Sorcerer has). You could also switch another character to Sorcerer for a while, just until they learn the healing spells, then switch back. Spells are kept when changing classes.

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Originally Posted by lolipez007

I'll probaby need to change out someone for another sorcerer so I can have a healer, but so far:

Leon - M/Bahamun/Good/Warrior - I want to make him a Dragon Warrior
Carmen - F/Dwarf/Neutral/Monk
Ashe - F/Felphur/Good/Samurai
Lyn - F/Human/Good/Idol - I always try to have a troubadour type character in my DRPGs :)
Mia - F/Diablos/Evil/Sorcerer
Aisha - F/Khulaz/Neutral/Ranger

I don't know who to replace for a healer. I don't want my lone sorcerer to do double duty and I really want to keep my idol.

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I'd say one of the front-liners or the ranger, and move it or the Idol up. Having two sorcerers has been invaluable when they get powerful multi-enemy spells and trap door. My tactic has been to guard them with the front row and fling spells from the back on tough foes.

Though, in reality, the idol is probably the one that should go. I hate to say it, but it probably brings the least to the party at the moment.

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Originally Posted by zborgerd

I'd say one of the front-liners or the ranger, and move it or the Idol up. Having two sorcerers has been invaluable when they get powerful multi-enemy spells and trap door. My tactic has been to guard them with the front row and fling spells from the back on tough foes.

Though, in reality, the idol is probably the one that should go. I hate to say it, but it probably brings the least to the party at the moment.

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So far from my perspective Idols go best with Melee types, their buff songs can really help you out on though battles and in the event of poison their healing songs can be at odds with the per turn damage. They serve little purpose for magic based parties as far as I know though.

I wasn't paying attention to the alignment restrictions when I made my Bahamun warrior neutral. I want to turn her into a dragonknight, how do I change her alignment to good? I bought a good berry, used it, and she turned evil! Thankfully, I saved before I did it.

Alignment works like this:

- The scale goes from +10 (good) to -10 (evil). +10 to +4 are Good, +3 to -3 are Neutral, -4 to -10 are Evil.
- When created, a character is +10, 0 or -10, according to their alignment.
- When you encounter "friendly" monsters (i.e. that don't attack right away), you can pick one of three options: Attack, Leave, or Wait. Attack shifts the alignment of the characters in your party 1 point to evil, Leave shifts it 1 point to good, Wait leaves it as is.
- When you use a Good Berry, that character's alignment is shifted 1 point to good, and their stated alignment is updated according to where they are on the scale at that moment. When you use an Evil Berry, the same happens, but after shifting 1 point to evil.

As you can see, depending on what you have been choosing in "friendly" encounters, your character's alignment could actually not change at all or change counter to the berry you used. If you only use berries, you would need 7 berries to shift a character's alignment from Good or Evil to Neutral, or 4 berries to shift it from Neutral to Good or Evil.

Btw, it is possible to change to a class that requires an alignment (Puppeteer, Samurai, Ninja, Geomancer, Dragon Knight, Fallen Angel) and then change your alignment afterwards to something else. This won't change your class. For example, my whole party is Evil, even the Dragon Knight and Samurai.

I still don't get how a good berry would switch a character from neutral to evil, but I guess I will just load up on them until my dude shifts to good.
Thanks for the info, I appreciate it!

^ For example:

You character started out as Neutral. This means 0 on the alignment scale. If you have made the choice to Attack in 'friendly' monster encounters several times, their alignment shifted 1 further down the scale each time. Suppose it is currently at -9. This is in the Evil range of the scale. However, what is displayed on the Status screen (and used in other calculations) remains Neutral so long as you don't feed them a Good/Evil Berry. At -9 you give them a Good Berry. This berry shifts the alignment 1 up the scale, so it becomes -8, and then updates the character's official alignment. -8 is still in the Evil range of the scale however, so their stated alignment becomes Evil.

Do you understand now?

If you want to change your character's alignment to Good, the easiest way is to start choosing to Leave in 'friendly' monster encounters. Each time you do that, the alignments of all characters in your party shift 1 point up the scale to Good. Once you have done that a bunch of times (say, about 15 or so), you can feed the character whose alignment you want to change a berry (preferably a Good Berry, just to make sure), and their alignment will update to Good.

You could accomplish this also by feeding them a lot of Good Berries, but you will quickly run out of available berries that way (each town's shop has only one Good and one Evil Berry).

I understand the logistics. But my character was neutral. I've never chosen attack in those situations, I always picked wait (I didn't know it had anything to do with alignment, I'd just rather not waste time fighting low level characters if I don't have to). So I don't get how my neutral girl somehow got into the neg zone.
But anyway, I fed her 3 good berrys. The first one turned her evil as always, the second one made no noticeable change, and the the third one put her back to neutral. I've had enough fights that I could leave that she finally turned good, and I literally just got done making her a dragon knight.
Thanks for the help.

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Originally Posted by some stupid japanese name

I understand the logistics. But my character was neutral. I've never chosen attack in those situations, I always picked wait (I didn't know it had anything to do with alignment, I'd just rather not waste time fighting low level characters if I don't have to). So I don't get how my neutral girl somehow got into the neg zone.
But anyway, I fed her 3 good berrys. The first one turned her evil as always, the second one made no noticeable change, and the the third one put her back to neutral. I've had enough fights that I could leave that she finally turned good, and I literally just got done making her a dragon knight.
Thanks for the help.

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well, i just started playing this game and my party starts with 1) gimm=samurai=dwarf 2)keiji=ninja=human 3)yachiyo=ranger=khulaz 4)puck=bahamum=idol 5)nikki=puppeteer=diablos 6)anya=sorcerer=fairy
i'm just starting so i'm getting the hang of it lol
i just dont know how the heck i picked this party XD

I think Gimm at least was one of the characters you're given when you start the game for the first time. I just deleted all six and rolled my own characters, but I guess you could use them. To be honest I thought it was a debug thing left in accidentally at first.

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Originally Posted by Kimiko_0

I think Gimm at least was one of the characters you're given when you start the game for the first time. I just deleted all six and rolled my own characters, but I guess you could use them. To be honest I thought it was a debug thing left in accidentally at first.

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Several of them are default characters, but there is nothing wrong with using them. They are there to make it so that the game can be pick up and play without rolling a team and trying to rack your brain on the intricacies of party creation. I'm pretty sure that you could win the game with the default team, but I personally think that a second mage is an essential, and dump the idol.

New Game calls for a new crew.

Human (N) Ranger -> Gunner **Nejiki
Felpur (N) Monk -> Beast **JoJo
Bahamun (G) Warrior -> Dragon Knight **Megumi
Elf (N) Sorcerer -> Summoner **Diana
Khulaz (N) Puppeteer **Emi
Fairy (N) Sorcerer -> Sage **Yui

It took me a really long time to figure out a new party but I knew for sure I wanted to use a Sage. The problem with having a Human/Fairy/Bahamun in the same party was the Affinity drop but I compensated by making the Bahamun good and everyone else neutral. Everyone is at least at 100% affinity, the highest being my Khulaz at 102%.

Front row: three Celestian sorcerers
Back row: a Human ranger and a Elf sorcerer

Working nice so far (entering Lanzlet). Didn't run into any forced fights on null magic panels, so no one died so far (even though I had to reset once or twice when grinding on Golden Neeners because of random ambushes).