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    Quote Originally Posted by banditwolf View Post
    Doesn't using the same wire at the same length get close? I assume it keeps the delay down if you used various lengths. (I know my receiver asks about distance)

    Does it matter much which gauge of wire? Being I'm not pumping a million watts would it matter 14 vs 16 vs 18? I don't think I'd need 12.
    I assume the distance setting is for adding a delay to the channels in a surround setup. Here's a lengthy PDF on surround recommendations if you're interested: http://www.opusproductions.com/pdfs/5_1_Rec.pdf
    I guess you could use it for stereo listening but correct placement should be simple enough with only two speakers.

    Not in particular. At least as far as I know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Pirates View Post
    If I'm going to EQ for the room I don't see why I wouldn't use calibrated equipment.
    Quote Originally Posted by banditwolf View Post
    Soooooo does it matter if it's perfect if you can't tell?
    Quote Originally Posted by Gypsy View Post
    There is no point in equalizing and not doing it right. Otherwise why bother?
    Because you aren't adjusting audio to a room where you absolutely need to account for proper filters in order to prevent feedback loops.

    I am doubtful that you are even going to like the audio that comes out of a system if you run FFT analysis on it. But would love to hear an honest opinion after you have done it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Pirates View Post
    Any speakers can do with some level of EQ if you want the last x%. If someone wants to EQ for preference I think they should do whatever they like.


    That's my take on it. I'd rather find another pair of speakers or headphones if I can't live with the stock response.
    Going to give you guys an honest comment on this. Consider it tough love. You are reaching a whole new level of "derp" with this, but its your system so you can do what you like. If you don't have anything to reference against, it's hard to tell what you've really come up with. But, again, it's yours. And as long as you like the results, that is what matters most. I'm just trying to save you from your own devices as someone who touches a LOT of audio every day.

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    I think I've made it pretty clear I don't care about EQ as much as you do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Pirates View Post
    I assume the distance setting is for adding a delay to the channels in a surround setup. Here's a lengthy PDF on surround recommendations if you're interested: http://www.opusproductions.com/pdfs/5_1_Rec.pdf
    I guess you could use it for stereo listening but correct placement should be simple enough with only two speakers.

    Not in particular. At least as far as I know.
    Delay and proper modeling of the hardware and room by virtue of laws of physics.

    Speaker wire gauge follows the same rules of getting anything through something of limited diameter. You can't water your garden with a sippy straw and you can't get the most of high powered low-z speakers on lightweight wire. 18 AWG or even less is fine for constant voltage systems where the transformer is actually in the speaker unit itself. You can normally power typical 8 ohm speakers on 16 AWG just fine for short distances. Even with 18 AWG you probably would have less than a fraction of 1 dB of loss at less than 30 feet in most 8 ohm systems. I feel that most 4 ohm bookshelf speakers are perfectly fine with 16 AWG under 20'. If all else fails, consult a power calculator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Pirates View Post
    I think I've made it pretty clear I don't care about EQ as much as you do.
    Then why do you want an analysis mic? That's going to be used to EQ the system. Unless you are just commenting on "doing it right" and have no intention to actually apply the EQ after you run it through the FFT analysis, then what's the point?

    Are you just getting a mic to see how accurate your system really is after you put it together? Because I guarantee you are not going to be happy with the results and it's going to drive you bonkers when you see how imperfect the analysis is.

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    What if he isn't buying a mic at all?
    Bad media connoisseur and frequent avatar changer.

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    Why would I spend money on a mic. for a specific purpose then not use it for that purpose?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Pirates View Post
    Why would I spend money on a mic. for a specific purpose then not use it for that purpose?
    So you are saying that you are going to use it to analyze the room with REW or SMAART and then apply the adjustments? That would be an EQ, Punky Broster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zborgerd View Post
    So you are saying that you are going to use it to analyze the room with REW or SMAART and then apply the adjustments? That would be an EQ, Punky Broster.
    If I bought one, yes, obviously so. I think you've gotten confused about something but I don't know what.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Pirates View Post
    I think I've made it pretty clear I don't care about EQ as much as you do.

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